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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoolander wrote:
You'll be saying he's too thin, or his limb length makes his average reaction time too slow next.

What on earth are you on about? I take it that this is just filler?

Zoolander wrote:
DDG has been an excellent goalkeeper for us, he bears comparison to both Schmeichal and Van Der Sar. He is in net at a time when he doesn't have a world class back four in front of him and we aren't dominating teams, often beating them in the tunnel. He plays a very different football to any recent United keeper.

He has been decent, and not shite by any means. But he has limitations, which is my entire point if you care to read. He doesn’t have a world class back four I agree, but he himself is part of that defense, which is often overlooked. He had major struggles even when he had a world class defense in front of him and I don’t think he’s ever improved as an all rounder, what he has done is that he has limited himself to certain elements of goalkeeping which are his stronger points (shot stopping). What I’m arguing is that I think United need more that that from their goalkeeper, especially when we don’t have physically imposing defenders in front of him.

Zoolander wrote:
Put DDG in the team that VDS enjoyed and things would be very different.

He was in that team, and struggled badly. Van Der Sar was worlds apart from De Gea in terms of goalkeeping. Calm, strong at claiming crosses and setting up attacks, fantastic communicator, a presence and brave. Can’t say the same about De Gea for most of those attributes. You need to understand that De Gea is part of this current team and is part of a team that is struggling to keep out goals.

Zoolander wrote:
By any measure he is a top keeper, certainly in the top 3-4 in the world at present. Anyone and everyone that is paid large amounts of money to be good at and knowledgeable about football agrees with this.

Then, in a far off corner of the world, on the outskirts of crazy town, just at the bottom of lullaby Lane, where the pixies & the unicorns live is you.....thinking your own thing and never, ever shutting up about it.

Very creative.

Zoolander wrote:
Change the record because A) you really are actually wrong and B) even if you're not, how many times has your approach actually made anyone ever change their mind?

I’m not looking to change anybody’s mind, it’s actually to the contrary. I’m giving my opinion and people are bitching about it without saying anything of substance (“bu, but the fancy savez”).

You can think whatever the fuck you want, but this is a discussion board about United in a topic about concession of goals in a team that contains a certain Mr De Gea (the best goalkeeper in the world™️). If we’re going to criticize others then I think he’s fair game as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.... you have your opinion. The rest of the world has theirs... let's just move on now. It's getting boring... Wink

I wonder what colour hair Pogba will have tomorrow?


Mainly black I would say, but I’m sure TOFB would likely disagree.

Of course I don’t. How would black hair make a decent emoji?! Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

after watching Romeo tonight, i for one am happy to stick with dave for now Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

john smith wrote:
after watching Romeo tonight, i for one am happy to stick with dave for now Wink


Don’t be daft, it’s still DDG’s fault that Romero didn’t play well. Rolling Eyes Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually analysed the whole game last night and have to say that on reflection, not only is DDG to blame for every goal against we've conceded this season but he is also to blame for our lack of goals scored as well.

He isn't getting the ball forward fast enough or with adequate accuracy, how is Lukaku meant to score off the dross DDG lobs at him, it's a joke. His throws are weak and misjudged and too easy to read, he doesn't mix it up and go one out wide, one central, then a short one etc. I've seen Wayne Hennessy do to great effect for Palace, DDG isn't on the same page as him in that respect.

Further more I think he has had an impact on our possession as well. By failing to make an adequate sweeper/keeper option it has had a negative impact on the back four meaning we struggle to get the ball out of our own half or keep control of it for sustained periods. It also means at least one midfielder had to keep dropping off to cover for DDG's constant failings, that makes the central area 25-30m from goal very congested and hard to pass quickly and effectively. Jonas Lossi at Huddersfield has proven that by making yourself available early and passing accurately, wide at pace you can be a keeper but have a real positive impact on the teams possession and overall control of the game. Again DDG has much to learn.

I noticed as well that last night he seemed very nervous, I suspect this is because he was waiting to hear about the vote of no confidence in Theresa May, indicating that A) he's a May fan, B) He's actually a remainer but is trying to deliver a leave agenda. This and the scant support for the current deal leaves me to think that DDG is largely responsible for this current political farce. Compare and contrast with Alex McCarthy at Southampton, who has always been a hard leaver, he's shown that with clarity of thought and purpose even an unpopular choice like Brexit could be delivered with skill and fortitude, yet again United are suffering because DDG can't match up.

Now, Islamic extremism................
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoolander wrote:
I actually analysed the whole game last night and have to say that on reflection, not only is DDG to blame for every goal against we've conceded this season but he is also to blame for our lack of goals scored as well.

He isn't getting the ball forward fast enough or with adequate accuracy, how is Lukaku meant to score off the dross DDG lobs at him, it's a joke. His throws are weak and misjudged and too easy to read, he doesn't mix it up and go one out wide, one central, then a short one etc. I've seen Wayne Hennessy do to great effect for Palace, DDG isn't on the same page as him in that respect.

Further more I think he has had an impact on our possession as well. By failing to make an adequate sweeper/keeper option it has had a negative impact on the back four meaning we struggle to get the ball out of our own half or keep control of it for sustained periods. It also means at least one midfielder had to keep dropping off to cover for DDG's constant failings, that makes the central area 25-30m from goal very congested and hard to pass quickly and effectively. Jonas Lossi at Huddersfield has proven that by making yourself available early and passing accurately, wide at pace you can be a keeper but have a real positive impact on the teams possession and overall control of the game. Again DDG has much to learn.

I noticed as well that last night he seemed very nervous, I suspect this is because he was waiting to hear about the vote of no confidence in Theresa May, indicating that A) he's a May fan, B) He's actually a remainer but is trying to deliver a leave agenda. This and the scant support for the current deal leaves me to think that DDG is largely responsible for this current political farce. Compare and contrast with Alex McCarthy at Southampton, who has always been a hard leaver, he's shown that with clarity of thought and purpose even an unpopular choice like Brexit could be delivered with skill and fortitude, yet again United are suffering because DDG can't match up.

Now, Islamic extremism................


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

john smith wrote:
after watching Romeo tonight, i for one am happy to stick with dave for now Wink

That’s what happens when Juliet is nowhere to be seen. Dave must have kidnapped her and will only release her once Real Madrid’s fax machine is fixed. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

romeo , romeo , where for art thou romeo


running out like a sunday league keeper , with fuck all chance of getting the ball .
only to see Phil cyclops -sloth off the goonies -jones pass it back to him. Wink
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