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TOFB



Joined: 27 Jan 2004
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Location: Cavan, Ireland

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoolander wrote:
tafkaf wrote:
Unlike your squaddie cunts, aye.


Fuck aye!

I kept people alive, he didn't.

PS Go fuck yourself!

How do you know he didn't? There clearly wasn't a whole lot of protection for Catholics from the RUC or the army back then. The town I live in is full of people who sought refuge after being burnt out of their houses in Belfast and ended up staying here.

The fact that you can't see your own hypocrisy speaks volumes.
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Waggers



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately when religion is at the centre of politics most people who fall on either side of the divide usually see it from their own point of view.

Just my opinion but what I see

Was McGuiness directly responsible for the deaths of British citizens? yes but a parallel can be drawn with Nelson Mandela.

Was McGuiness instrumental in the peace process working ? Again parallels with Mandela.

You might argue that Mandela was fighting against apartheid and the IRA were fighting for something different but until you see it from the point of view of the Catholics in Ireland in the 50s, 60s and early 70s you will not really know.

However British Citizens whichever side of the divide they come from have the right for protection from their government and British citizens and British troops should not be being killed by anyone.

If any of you purport to being Christian and try to justify killing in the name of religion you should hang your heads in shame.

Just my opinion Wink Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen to that Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always struggled, and will always struggle, with any individual or group that kills in the name of an ideology.

It may be unpalatable for some to hear the IRA likened to ISIS, as unpalatable as that may be they both kill in the name of an ideology - the difference is relative to your politics and support of the ideology, the act of terror is the same to the victims of murder.
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