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Nicolae



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Mourinho's attitude to United fans Reply with quote

The Dave wrote:
The shushing, the programme notes, etc.

Thoughts?

Obviously I've made my feelings on the bloke clear and would love to see the Stretford end arise, drag his arse out of the dugout and stamp his head to a bloody pulp on the centre circle, but what about you lot?

Can he speak to us like this? Has he earned that right yet?


Isn't it his whole MO?

* Come in a blaze of glory
* Charm the press / players / owners / fans
* Win games with his 'pragmatic' style
* Win pots
* Fall out with players publicly
* Fall out with the fans
* Fall out with the owners
* Make everything about him
* Leave after 2 or 3 seasons under a stormcloud

It's hardly new is it and I doubt it will be any different this time.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I agree with the purple one here.

I'm off for a lie down.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Mourinho's attitude to United fans Reply with quote

Nicolae wrote:
The Dave wrote:
The shushing, the programme notes, etc.

Thoughts?

Obviously I've made my feelings on the bloke clear and would love to see the Stretford end arise, drag his arse out of the dugout and stamp his head to a bloody pulp on the centre circle, but what about you lot?

Can he speak to us like this? Has he earned that right yet?


Isn't it his whole MO?

* Come in a blaze of glory
* Charm the press / players / owners / fans
* Win games with his 'pragmatic' style
* Win pots
* Fall out with players publicly
* Fall out with the fans
* Fall out with the owners
* Make everything about him
* Leave after 2 or 3 seasons under a stormcloud

It's hardly new is it and I doubt it will be any different this time.


Football myth #183 right here.

The only fans he’s falling out with are the delicate flowers that we probably need to create a safe-space for in and around the ground.
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The Dave



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Mourinho's attitude to United fans Reply with quote

Nicolae wrote:
Isn't it his whole MO?

* Come in a blaze of glory
* Charm the press / players / owners / fans
* Win games with his 'pragmatic' style
* Win pots
* Fall out with players publicly
* Fall out with the fans
* Fall out with the owners
* Make everything about him
* Leave after 2 or 3 seasons under a stormcloud

It's hardly new is it and I doubt it will be any different this time.


I can't argue with the rest but I don't remember him bickering with supporters before. They still adore him at Porto, Inter and Chelsea. Real Madrid's fanbase is more split, over much the same reason ours is now.

Never mind, Paul Ince thinks he's right to start on the United fans so that's good enough for me. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jose had no issues at Porto or Inter at any level, why is his MO based only on what happened at Real and Chelsea?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This 3 year thing is a bit of a red herring.

How many managers last longer than 3 years at Real or Chelsea, or any club for that matter?

Jose has managered clubs that sack managers as soon as it's clear they won't win a title, and very few clubs have managed back to back league titles, so a 3 year cycle is probably the norm at clubs like this.
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Nicolae



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Southern Red wrote:
This 3 year thing is a bit of a red herring.
so a 3 year cycle is probably the norm at clubs like this.


So a red herring or the norm then?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nicolae wrote:
Southern Red wrote:
This 3 year thing is a bit of a red herring.
so a 3 year cycle is probably the norm at clubs like this.


So a red herring or the norm then?

Both.

Clubs sacking managers after 3 years is normal.

Jose is the only manager given the "three year" tag. This is to distract people away from the success he has had.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really 'get' this 3-year cycle thing.

Jose left Porto for a much more attractive job at Chelsea, a team he parted company with twice - once due to differences with Abramovic and then due to being given the sack.
Leaving Inter for Real Madrid would have been seen as a 'promotion', an opportunity he could hardly turn down.
It was Madrid's decision to end his time there.


On the other hand...

Guardiola has decided to leave his post as manager after three years at both his previous clubs.
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