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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:03 pm    Post subject: Fellaini Reply with quote

For Fucks Sake!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, as a backup option he's fine when used appropriately. He's a blunt force instrument and can be used well to clatter into defenders or break up attacks. Even surgeons have a mallet in their tool kit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just about retired Jones last night. I bet Cahill and Stones said yous're having him! Honest player, whole-hearted, gives it all. Sometimes too much but he gets the club.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pleased with this.

I've been a critic of the big man but he does offer us something, even if that something isn't pretty.

He's taken a lot of stick from supporters, being one of few united players to be booed. Most players would crumble and run a million miles. Fellaini had every chance to do this. He's chosen to stay, hopefully 'coz he wants to prove the doubters wrong.

I genuinely hope he can put the "Moyes panic buy" signing tag to bed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If any other club in the league has signed him, we’d have wished him well but been delighted to have gotten rid.

That, more than anything, is a measure of how little any fan actually wants this guy. Ditto Jones and Smalling I’d add.

He can perform ‘a job’, but really...it shouldn’t be a job we need to be advertising. We’ve gone years without needing someone to ‘throw on’ to do the ‘job’ Fellaini can do and be a ‘nuisance’ and we won plenty in those years.

Let’s not kid ourselves, and just hope Fred can be the revolutionary cog in midfield that we need.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not pretty but he's got us out of the shit on more than a couple of occasions.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

m42her wrote:
If any other club in the league has signed him, we’d have wished him well but been delighted to have gotten rid.

That, more than anything, is a measure of how little any fan actually wants this guy. Ditto Jones and Smalling I’d add.

He can perform ‘a job’, but really...it shouldn’t be a job we need to be advertising. We’ve gone years without needing someone to ‘throw on’ to do the ‘job’ Fellaini can do and be a ‘nuisance’ and we won plenty in those years.

Let’s not kid ourselves, and just hope Fred can be the revolutionary cog in midfield that we need.


totally agree .
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This board makes me laugh. Have we really fallen so far that re-signing a very, very limited player with no clear position and the chance of an injury prone Arsenal reject are seen as good business?

We paid too much for Fellaini when we bought him and for 4 years the only time he's ever been of use is in the last 5 minutes when we are desperately lobbing balls into the box. Is that really what we want? £28m and over £100k a week for a player that you'd expect to see in Fat Sams Bolton or Dave Bassets Wimbledon?

He can't tackle, he can't pass, he isn't a dynamic box to box midfielder, he isn't a creative, skilful midfielder, he isn't a No 10 and he isn't a 'holding midfielder' just exactly what is he?

Him being in the squad takes away a place that a younger player could have and takes valuable wages out of our budget. How does he fit in with Pogba, Fred, Matic? I don't get it. He's done nothing to warrant a pay rise and a new contract, it's proof that United are going the wrong way and anyone that's pleased to see him rewarded for unmitigated averageness should have a long hard think.

Bayern signed Goretzka for free and he earns less than Fellaini does. Our scouting and recruitment is fucked!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1999 wrote:
not pretty but he's got us out of the shit on more than a couple of occasions.


But he is the reason we're in the shit and therein is the paradox.

If we had better players than Fellaini we wouldn't be in the shit that he has occasionally gotten us out of.

He's the footballing equivalent to the NRA's policy of having more guns to protect yourself from all the guns.

Is this what United are reduced to?

Do you not question why players like MKhitaryan, Kagawa, Di Maria, Depay aren't at the club and didn't last and yet an incredibly limited blunt instrument like Fellaini is rewarded with a pay rise? At the same time players like Coutinho, Silva & Eriksen have arrived in the Premier League and flourished.

Something is not right at United and the way fans have begun to passively accept this and at times embrace it is worrying. We need to take the red glasses off, just because they play for us does not mean they are automatically good.

Fellaini is shite and if he played for anyone else in the league he'd be a figure of fun on this site anyone claiming different is a liar.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoolander wrote:
1999 wrote:
not pretty but he's got us out of the shit on more than a couple of occasions.




Fellaini is shite and if he played for anyone else in the league he'd be a figure of fun on this site anyone claiming different is a liar.


He's pretty much a figure of fun regardless.
I'm not happy we've re-signed him btw, my heart sinks whenever I see him either in the starting 11 or even when he's warming up to come on.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

m42her wrote:
If any other club in the league has signed him, we’d have wished him well but been delighted to have gotten rid.

That, more than anything, is a measure of how little any fan actually wants this guy. Ditto Jones and Smalling I’d add.

He can perform ‘a job’, but really...it shouldn’t be a job we need to be advertising. We’ve gone years without needing someone to ‘throw on’ to do the ‘job’ Fellaini can do and be a ‘nuisance’ and we won plenty in those years.

Let’s not kid ourselves, and just hope Fred can be the revolutionary cog in midfield that we need.


Quite. On a side note it looks like Blind is off this summer - IMO if we were to hold on to one of our squad players who can 'do a job' I'd rather it were him.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Fellaini Reply with quote

Zoolander wrote:
For Fucks Sake!


I’ve read this thread but the above sums it up.

He’s not a United player and I was looking forward to never seeing him play again as he joined his level in Turkish football. Disappointed he’s still with us.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that all had me looking for his name among the angels of the apocalypse. It must be very well hidden. I couldn't get that excited.

1. He's a squad player and he will have limited time. What he does have may have some impact.

2. The ball does tend to stick and he tends to play short and simple.

3. He provides an aerial option at front and back and generally does what the manager wants rather than Go on a frolic of his own.

4. The majority view seems to be to let Jose see his contract out so his view trumps all others. Jose didn't buy him and i imagine didn't really think of him as a key player judging by the players he has bought. Obviously he has seen something there.

Are there better players? Yes. They are in front of him. I doubt he will cost a youngster a place in the next two years. I don't see anyone saying Felli's in front of me, I'd best be off.

I confess I am biased. The Mrs likes him and she tends to be a very good judge of character in footballers.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoolander wrote:
This board makes me laugh. Have we really fallen so far that re-signing a very, very limited player with no clear position and the chance of an injury prone Arsenal reject are seen as good business?

We paid too much for Fellaini when we bought him and for 4 years the only time he's ever been of use is in the last 5 minutes when we are desperately lobbing balls into the box. Is that really what we want? £28m and over £100k a week for a player that you'd expect to see in Fat Sams Bolton or Dave Bassets Wimbledon?

He can't tackle, he can't pass, he isn't a dynamic box to box midfielder, he isn't a creative, skilful midfielder, he isn't a No 10 and he isn't a 'holding midfielder' just exactly what is he?

Him being in the squad takes away a place that a younger player could have and takes valuable wages out of our budget. How does he fit in with Pogba, Fred, Matic? I don't get it. He's done nothing to warrant a pay rise and a new contract, it's proof that United are going the wrong way and anyone that's pleased to see him rewarded for unmitigated averageness should have a long hard think.

Bayern signed Goretzka for free and he earns less than Fellaini does. Our scouting and recruitment is fucked!


I Absofuckingluteley Concur
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoolander wrote:
1999 wrote:
not pretty but he's got us out of the shit on more than a couple of occasions.


But he is the reason we're in the shit and therein is the paradox.

If we had better players than Fellaini we wouldn't be in the shit that he has occasionally gotten us out of.

He's the footballing equivalent to the NRA's policy of having more guns to protect yourself from all the guns.

Is this what United are reduced to?

Do you not question why players like MKhitaryan, Kagawa, Di Maria, Depay aren't at the club and didn't last and yet an incredibly limited blunt instrument like Fellaini is rewarded with a pay rise? At the same time players like Coutinho, Silva & Eriksen have arrived in the Premier League and flourished.

Something is not right at United and the way fans have begun to passively accept this and at times embrace it is worrying. We need to take the red glasses off, just because they play for us does not mean they are automatically good.

Fellaini is shite and if he played for anyone else in the league he'd be a figure of fun on this site anyone claiming different is a liar.

That’s absolute bollocks in fairness. Blaming Fellaini for the shiteness of Mhikitaryan, Kagawa, Di Maria and Depay. They were shite on their own accord, nothing to do with Fellaini. On the contrary, if those players showed half the bottle that Fellaini did when reacting to his own fans booing him, they might have actually lasted at the club, and not cowered out like a bunch of little fannies.

He doesn’t have the ability with the ball at his feet, we know that. But if half our current crop had his bottle and sheer determination to win (Pogba being a prime example of somebody needing a good kick up the fucking arse), we might actually win something of merit.

Once we have players actually capable of doing this, we will see Fellaini fade into the background, until then, I’d rather see his effort ahead of a bunch of overpaid cunts who aren’t willing to put in the effort for the shirt.
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