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john smith



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoolander wrote:
Southern Red wrote:
Please tell me I haven't just read a debate about DDG's ability?

I usually respect the opinions of others, even if I disagree with it, but this is complete bollocks. DDG is probably the only player in this squad who has not let us down. Using Ronaldos goal to back up your theory is bizarre. No keeper in the world would be winning that. Sometimes in football, no matter how good you are, how organised etc a pass can be played that fucks everything up. This was one of those occasions.... and if claiming crosses was a weak area, then that's fine. I'd rather my keeper save the follow-up shot than risk claiming a ball he wasn't confident of getting.

As for his distribution, I rarely see the options open to him that our previous keepers had. Wide men high up the pitch ready to break.

He's one of, if not the best keeper in the world. We are far better with him than we'd be without him.


Personally I think he needs a loan period to toughen up & get used to the pace of the league


loan my arse, he should be sold for peanuts to a championship club and taught lesson, he has a bad back anyway from carrying our whole team for 3 years.

we need Thaibi back or Barhtez or Bosnich .
now thems proper keepers , not like this spanish twat we have now , he's fucking like Dracula

scared of crosses ...............boom tish .. Shocked Very Happy


i also think that Messi is shit too - he's over rated to fuck, can he head a ball - can he fuck

useless little cunt he is ............... Rolling Eyes

and that fucking Ronaldo , never seen him ever take a decent corner in his entire career ...shit bag toss pot show pony, people only see the good things he does, what about the fact he never ever takes throw ins !!!

fucking posing cunt ,
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOFB wrote:
Southern Red wrote:
Please tell me I haven't just read a debate about DDG's ability?

I usually respect the opinions of others, even if I disagree with it, but this is complete bollocks. DDG is probably the only player in this squad who has not let us down. Using Ronaldos goal to back up your theory is bizarre. No keeper in the world would be winning that. Sometimes in football, no matter how good you are, how organised etc a pass can be played that fucks everything up. This was one of those occasions.... and if claiming crosses was a weak area, then that's fine. I'd rather my keeper save the follow-up shot than risk claiming a ball he wasn't confident of getting.

As for his distribution, I rarely see the options open to him that our previous keepers had. Wide men high up the pitch ready to break.

He's one of, if not the best keeper in the world. We are far better with him than we'd be without him.

You’ve just read it, is that okay or is he immune from criticism just because. I said he’s a liability when having do come off his line, is this not correct?

Again, you’ve completely missed the point. He’s standing six yards from where Ronaldo stuck the volley when Bonucci played the ball. The ball travelled fifty yards, Ronaldo ran twenty yards to run onto it, meanwhile our goalkeeper takes a sidewards step and back when he should have came out to deal with it before Ronaldo struck. He did the same as he did with a Cuadrado cross in the first half that bounced in his six yard box, the same as he did for the Wilson chance last weekend... he shat it.

The only way anything will open up for a counter attack is if he commands his box, catches the ball and gets our outfield players away on a counter attack quickly, that won’t happen if you’re stuck on your line.

He’s the best shot stopper in the world, in other departments, nowhere near.


To call him a liability would suggest his 'weakness' costs us games. It doesnt. I would call Karius a liability.

If you want to play the blame game for the Ronny goal (personally I think we just got undone by brilliance), why didn't the defender (can't remember who it was) deal with it? The keeper is the last line of defence and should not be committing themselves when a defender is available to deal with it.

I would agree that this is one of his worst seasons for us. But he's playing behind a poor defence, in a team heavily criticised, on the back of a world cup where he also struggled. He's probably low on confidence and feeling the pressure of carrying his team mates for so long.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoolander wrote:
Southern Red wrote:
Please tell me I haven't just read a debate about DDG's ability?

I usually respect the opinions of others, even if I disagree with it, but this is complete bollocks. DDG is probably the only player in this squad who has not let us down. Using Ronaldos goal to back up your theory is bizarre. No keeper in the world would be winning that. Sometimes in football, no matter how good you are, how organised etc a pass can be played that fucks everything up. This was one of those occasions.... and if claiming crosses was a weak area, then that's fine. I'd rather my keeper save the follow-up shot than risk claiming a ball he wasn't confident of getting.

As for his distribution, I rarely see the options open to him that our previous keepers had. Wide men high up the pitch ready to break.

He's one of, if not the best keeper in the world. We are far better with him than we'd be without him.


Personally I think he needs a loan period to toughen up & get used to the pace of the league


Unoriginal cunt comment confirmed! See above!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully all this can lead to an open & honest debate on that complete charlatan Ferguson. Looking objectively what did he ever do for us?

Trace it back as far as you like - he signed that De Gea in the first place but really all you see is a series of bad decisions that have ultimately put us where we are now.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we should give Fergie the manager’s job just so we can sack him. I mean, what did he ever do for us?...

OK, apart from knocking them off their perch what did he do for us?
OK, apart from winning all those trophies what did he do for us?
OK, apart from playing great football what did he ever do for us?
OK, apart from making us Kings of Europe twice what did he ever do for us?
OK, apart from making us champions 13 times what did he ever do for us?
OK, apart from giving us glorious moments aplenty what did he ever do for us?

Proper charlatan he was, discuss.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ball bouncing in the six yard box for Silva goal and arms behind his back for Aguero goal.

Did well today... better not criticize.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOFB wrote:
He did well today... better not criticize.



I have handed down the baton.

Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fucking totally agree, the aguero goal was soft , he hardly hit it hard did he , any decent keeper would have used his face to stop it,
Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

john smith wrote:
fucking totally agree, the aguero goal was soft , he hardly hit it hard did he , any decent keeper would have used his face to stop it,
Rolling Eyes

Are you blind? What keeper saves a shot like that with his arms starting off behind his back and hip high? He would have saved it if he had used a basic goalkeeping ready position stance. It was poor and schoolboyish, don’t let the theatrical saves in his highlights reels cloud your judgement. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TOFB wrote:
john smith wrote:
fucking totally agree, the aguero goal was soft , he hardly hit it hard did he , any decent keeper would have used his face to stop it,
Rolling Eyes

Are you blind? What keeper saves a shot like that with his arms starting off behind his back and hip high? He would have saved it if he had used a basic goalkeeping ready position stance. It was poor and schoolboyish, don’t let the theatrical saves in his highlights reels cloud your judgement. Rolling Eyes


The fact nobody agrees with you speaks volumes.

You can't reason with stupid, so I'm not even going to try.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Southern Red wrote:
TOFB wrote:
john smith wrote:
fucking totally agree, the aguero goal was soft , he hardly hit it hard did he , any decent keeper would have used his face to stop it,
Rolling Eyes

Are you blind? What keeper saves a shot like that with his arms starting off behind his back and hip high? He would have saved it if he had used a basic goalkeeping ready position stance. It was poor and schoolboyish, don’t let the theatrical saves in his highlights reels cloud your judgement. Rolling Eyes


The fact nobody agrees with you speaks volumes.

You can't reason with stupid, so I'm not even going to try.

Don't really care if you or anybody else agrees with me or not, I'm not here to be in a popularity contest. The evidence is there on the pitch this last three games (and more), and its there in our goals conceded column. What people choose to see is up to them, I'm just pointing out that there is a problem with him and it isn't helping our situation.
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