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Chubby



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:53 pm    Post subject: Who next then? Reply with quote

Laurent Blanc's name is getting mentioned as the interim boss until the end of the season. I quite like the idea, he would certainly be able to make the best of a defensive bad-lot that we have at present, he'd hopefully sort Martial and Pogba out, and he understands the club and it's traditions and is one of SAFs old players that has a good managerial reputation.

Get Cantona back as part of his coaching team to add some much needed charisma and passion.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This season is a free hit for any manager. 6 month contract with no expectations.

The more important hires are the ones behind the scenes this season. Then we’ll know what our future will really look like.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

m42her wrote:
This season is a free hit for any manager. 6 month contract with no expectations.

The more important hires are the ones behind the scenes this season. Then we’ll know what our future will really look like.


True, but I'd like to see someone come in and make it their own and not waste 6 months.

The Director of Football is the key one, as is setting the football management side of the club up so we roll coaches in/out without too much impact. We should never again allow ourselves to be in a position where a significant manager/coach leaves a huge void that nobody can easily fill.

We should be like Barca, Real Madrid or Bayern and have a situation where the coach is simply responsible for coaching the team, getting the best out of what he has and what the Director of Football and transfer strategy gives him to work with.

For all City's and the Murderers style and current skill, they are both teams in the image of their manager and not teams in the image of their clubs per se. When either leave then continuity will be incredibly difficult for both. We should sacrifice short term results for long term outcomes, if we get the personel and the strategy right then we'll haul ourselves back to the top of the game once City and the Dippers have had their moment in the sun.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chubby wrote:


True, but I'd like to see someone come in and make it their own and not waste 6 months.

The Director of Football is the key one, as is setting the football management side of the club up so we roll coaches in/out without too much impact. We should never again allow ourselves to be in a position where a significant manager/coach leaves a huge void that nobody can easily fill.

We should be like Barca, Real Madrid or Bayern and have a situation where the coach is simply responsible for coaching the team, getting the best out of what he has and what the Director of Football and transfer strategy gives him to work with.



This should have been SAF's parting gift to us, I am genuinely disappointed that he failed to leave us in a position where we would drop into the chasm like we did after Sir Matt left, I know we're not quite there yet but we easily could be if things don't get put right very soon.

Fans often talk about "the United Way" well that is only possible with this set up, in my life time we've played loads of different styles and formations, what they mean these days is "the Ferguson way" and even that changed hugely over the 27 years.

It's vital to get a director of football that can shape the club, if it wasn't that he's so old I'd have David Dein in that role but there must be others out there.

Then a head of talent acquisition to over see scouting, recruitment & retention from 8 year olds through to 30 something squad players coming in on free transfers.

Finally a head of our academy, someone with a genuine proven track record of developing young players (like Southampton do) not just jobs for the boys. United will always attract decent kids, we're a huge club with lots of appeal but of late we simply haven't been getting those real gems through, the job is an easy one for Butt and for me he hasn't proven anything special yet.

Once we have those roles in place we can talk about the United way and we can consistently play to a style and a formation to create an identity.

I don't care who takes it up right now, we need to be honest, write off this season, take a few steps back, lose some of the dead weight that cost a fortune and earns a packet. We have 5 centre halves at the club and 2 out on loan and from what I've seen not one of them is actually good enough to play for a team that wants to finish top 2/challenge for the title every year, get to the semi-finals of the CL and hope to claim one of the domestic pots. Not one of them would get in city, vermin, spuds, chelsea or arsenals side. Shaw aside our full backs are mid 30's converted wingers. There is a lot to do for whom ever is brave enough to take the job on because if the next appointment isn't right......we're headed into the abyss as a laughing stock.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted in the other thread about the qoute coming out of the club about Carrick being interim manager before a new temporary manager can be put into place... at first I thought it sounded messy. After thinking and listening to the coverage, I've changed my mind.

The SSN journo at OT is suggesting the club wanted a DoF but Jose resisted. Perfectly plausible. Now we have the chance to get someone into that role, and I think we will. There would be no point recruiting a new manager before a DoF is in place. It also gives us some thinking time over the new man.

It does look like Blanc will be our man for the next 6 months. No issue with that. I was hoping to bounce back quickly but if the structure of the club is changing I'll happily accept we might have to wait for a few years before getting to where we should be.

All I ask is for a bit of progress every season. A bit of hope.

For the first time in months I am looking forward to Saturday.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Director of football - sir Alex
head coach - Carlos Quirex
academy head - Giggs
youth team head coach - The legend that is Ole/ eric

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:22 pm    Post subject: One choice for me Reply with quote

Nagelsmann and give him three years to build a team for the title
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The legend that is Ole for director of football.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reports are saying The legend that is Ole as interim manager until next season. Pochettino frontrunner to take over.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very pleased to see The legend that is Ole returning to the club, it's essentially a free hit for him for the next 5 months but he'll certainly bring a professionalism and understanding to how United should operate. I'd like to see us return to some kind of playing identity that we're familiar with and a world away from the visual dross that LvG and Jose made us play.

I'm feeling hopeful, we're a million miles away from where we need to be, but hopefully this is the start of meaningful progress, done the right way and in the spirit of football taught by Matt Busby. Attack, attack, attack.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We should at least be a bit more fun to watch for a bit!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pleased to have The legend that is Ole back at the club.

The players have no hiding place at the club anymore. Where supporters would be split between who to blame for our failures under jose, supporters will not want to see The legend that is Ole fail. If the players are not prepared to run through brick walls for The legend that is Ole, someone loved by all of us, they will be exposed and they'll be fucked off.

How will he do? Fuck knows. But you could be the best tactician in the world, have he most gifted group of players at your disposal. But, if the players aren't willing to work hard, tactics and ability is irrelevant. As I said, those not grafting will now be exposed. It's time for players like Pogba to prove they are worthy of the shirt, 'coz in a contest between The legend that is Ole and our current squad, The legend that is Ole wins every time. And there are very few steps up for players under performing at United.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is our banner still at OT ?
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