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Chubby



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:06 pm    Post subject: Bournemouth Reply with quote

A satisfying performance, beating a team at home who we should be beating and with the degree of ease that we should be beating them, coupled with a fair bit of style and panache.

Where once we were slow and predictable we’re now dynamic, quick and dictating the tempo. Yes, it’s only Cardiff, Huddersfield and Bournemouth but these are games we’ve struggled to put to bed for 5 1/2 seasons, particularly at home.

Pogba, Rashford, Martial, Lingard, I hope we can soon as Lukaku and Sanchez to a forward unit that is free to try things, encouraged to try things and is great to watch.

Central defence needs fixing but Linderlof looks so much better. We need two new CBs and I think we’re not that far away from Murdering Scum, City or Spurs.

I defended Jose for so long, I feel I need to apologise for it. We’re seeing what a positive, less confrontational and less ego driven coach can get out of these players.

I can’t wait until the next match, I haven’t felt like that since 2013.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The legend that is Ole might not be a genius. He might only be 'the happy one'. He might not have the tactical nous required to take us from top 6 to title challengers... only time will tell.

What we have seen is, if The legend that is Ole isn't as good as we'd like him to be, at the very worst it shows us how the virus (jose) had infected this group of players, and us as supporters. If an interim manager, riding a wave of love and enthusiasm can get this much more from this squad than 'the miserable one', imagine bringing a good coach/tactiction into the club.

I've always felt this squad of players were pretty good. Far better than weve seen this season anyway. They just needed a manager to trust them and perhaps 2 players to challenge again.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I defended Jose too,he obviously wasn't the right fit.
However the players have to take some of the blame too,they are on huge wages and not doing the work.
Sanchez return will be interesting....
We are still conceding silly goals too
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Southern Red wrote:
The legend that is The legend that is Ole might not be a genius. He might only be 'the happy one'. He might not have the tactical nous required to take us from top 6 to title challengers... only time will tell.

What we have seen is, if The legend that is The legend that is Ole isn't as good as we'd like him to be, at the very worst it shows us how the virus (jose) had infected this group of players, and us as supporters. If an interim manager, riding a wave of love and enthusiasm can get this much more from this squad than 'the miserable one', imagine bringing a good coach/tactiction into the club.

I've always felt this squad of players were pretty good. Far better than weve seen this season anyway. They just needed a manager to trust them and perhaps 2 players to challenge again.


The genius of leadership isn’t strategy, it’s simplicity, consistency and leading from the front without ego but above all things it’s about trust. The players look like they trust the manager, the manager looks like he trusts the players - when you have that basic raw ingredient you have every chance to succeed. At present we’re seeing talent being allowed to flourish, to express itself and trusted to make great things happen, but also trusted to make mistakes and learn from them. The previous regime was evidently a joyless place to work, too structured, too suffocating, too much distrust at all levels in the club.

The legend that is Ole may not be the brilliant master tactician, although I’m not sure we can make that judgement call in fairness, but he’s already demonstrated that he’s a far more effective leader in today’s game, with today’s players, than Jose currently is. Jose needs to adapt his approach, I’m not sure he can.
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m42her



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chubby wrote:
Southern Red wrote:
The legend that is The legend that is The legend that is Ole might not be a genius. He might only be 'the happy one'. He might not have the tactical nous required to take us from top 6 to title challengers... only time will tell.

What we have seen is, if The legend that is The legend that is The legend that is Ole isn't as good as we'd like him to be, at the very worst it shows us how the virus (jose) had infected this group of players, and us as supporters. If an interim manager, riding a wave of love and enthusiasm can get this much more from this squad than 'the miserable one', imagine bringing a good coach/tactiction into the club.

I've always felt this squad of players were pretty good. Far better than weve seen this season anyway. They just needed a manager to trust them and perhaps 2 players to challenge again.


The genius of leadership isn’t strategy, it’s simplicity, consistency and leading from the front without ego but above all things it’s about trust. The players look like they trust the manager, the manager looks like he trusts the players - when you have that basic raw ingredient you have every chance to succeed. At present we’re seeing talent being allowed to flourish, to express itself and trusted to make great things happen, but also trusted to make mistakes and learn from them. The previous regime was evidently a joyless place to work, too structured, too suffocating, too much distrust at all levels in the club.

The legend that is The legend that is Ole may not be the brilliant master tactician, although I’m not sure we can make that judgement call in fairness, but he’s already demonstrated that he’s a far more effective leader in today’s game, with today’s players, than Jose currently is. Jose needs to adapt his approach, I’m not sure he can.


Exactly this.

All the 'top' managers we consider as candidates right now started somewhere far below where they are now and benefited from bigger clubs taking a chance on them.

With all the clamour for Zidane earlier in the season - he had far less experience than The legend that is Ole when Madrid took a chance on him.

Poch was at Espanyol & was decent at Southampton when Spurs came in for him.

Pep had only coached the Barca B teams before being given the first team role.

Before Klopp got the Dortmund job, he got Mainz promoted to the Bundesliga, finished mid table and then got relegated. Yet Dortmund saw enough and took a chance on him.

Maybe that's the way it should be. Maybe it's about seeing something in someone that fits with your club and you let them go for it.

The hype on Poch is mental at the moment, and short of a title in his first 2 seasons if he came to us, nothing will match it.

I like this feeling with The legend that is Ole and the 3 coaches, and I want to keep it going if he can keep it going. He's positive, he says it like we want him to and so far he's delivering on the pitch.

Long may it continue.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am resolving to be positive this year , life , love , work , football etc Laughing

i never wanted mourinho and apart from a few blips i never ever liked him. i would go so far as to say i hate the cunt !!

i am glad we sacked him before his disease spread through the club any further .


we may well see this season end with
City -champions of europe
vermin - champions of england
leeeds - championship winners

and we may win fuck all and finish 5th or lower ,

however - at this moment i believe i like most reds, i feel optimistic, we feel re born to a certain extent, we have our mo-jo back shall we say . Laughing Laughing

watching fellaini blunder about up front trying to score a late winner against a shite side was something i never wanted to see.


we have tried the old school canny scot
the old school dutch master
and the dinosaur old school broken record 10 year old shite tactics portugese

whatever 0le may bring , he tries to play the utd way, and i would rather fail with that attitude than win by lumping it up to fellaini Wink





as a fickle football fan i reserve the right to change my mind if we start losing 4 and 5 nil to city and spurs etc
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Sol the Red



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

john smith wrote:
i am resolving to be positive this year , life , love , work , football etc Laughing

i never wanted mourinho and apart from a few blips i never ever liked him. i would go so far as to say i hate the cunt !!

i am glad we sacked him before his disease spread through the club any further .


we may well see this season end with
City -champions of europe
vermin - champions of england
leeeds - championship winners

and we may win fuck all and finish 5th or lower ,

however - at this moment i believe i like most reds, i feel optimistic, we feel re born to a certain extent, we have our mo-jo back shall we say . Laughing Laughing

watching fellaini blunder about up front trying to score a late winner against a shite side was something i never wanted to see.


we have tried the old school canny scot
the old school dutch master
and the dinosaur old school broken record 10 year old shite tactics portugese

whatever 0le may bring , he tries to play the utd way, and i would rather fail with that attitude than win by lumping it up to fellaini Wink





as a fickle football fan i reserve the right to change my mind if we start losing 4 and 5 nil to city and spurs etc


I agree. OGS may not be the long term answer but he is putting into practice what he learned from SAF so the very worst you can say is that the players will be allowed to express themselves and we will go out to attack teams.

Also OGS will improve our strikers technically for sure. He was one of the best finishers I've seen since Denis Law and if he can't teach the strikers how to be more clinical, no-one can.

The most important thing was to change the mental slump the place was in, and OGS has already done that. We've had three fucking oddballs in a row and it's good to once again to have someone who doesn't have psychological problems of their own in charge of the club.
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Southern Red



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it just nice to have a bit of hope again?

I see city drop points and I'm happy again because there is a chance, however small, that we might catch them. Rather than hoping city win to stop the dippers winning the league.

A sense of excitement for the CL has also returned. We've gone from having no chance, to anything is possible. Chelsea done it in a similar situation. Why not dream? And what better way of pissing over the dippers parade when they win the league?

This might all be a little bit of giddiness on my part, but if you can't enjoy it we may as well pick up our ball and fuck off home.
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